Protecting the Deck to Sheer Plank Join - Kayak Build

[Nick Watt]

Things are progressing well in my ‘battleship’ kayak build. I’ve now completed the interior, including the painting of the visible bits and the epoxy coating of the inside of the buoyancy compartments. Blog entry to be updated soon, now that I know how to do it in the new website format. I’ve now got the deck cut out (2 pieces) and dry fitted, waiting for when I have several free hours at one time and some helping hands available. My mind is now turning to final finishing.I’m having thoughts about what to do – if anything – to protect the deck/sheer plank join. The options seem to be:- Round it off and make sure that it is well saturated with epoxy and then well covered with paint. (The ‘do almost nothing’ option, potentially the most vulnerable to damage, but lightest).- Round off, then cover with epoxy/tape. (The most protected option ? A lot of fairing required to blend in the tape, added time & weight).- Cover the join with a miniature rubrail (Some protection, a bit more fiddly (?) to achieve a good looking result, some additional weight).On a boat, this join is very vulnerable as you come alongside things; does the same hold good for a kayak ? There is a strong gunwale timber inside on which the joint is formed.Any views ?Many thanks,Nick

[Mike]

Hi Nick

I've noted you had spelling and formatting issues. FWIW, so have I - at least I have noted the fact that the spellchecker doesn't seem to work. I think this is caused by some problems associated with templates but am not too sure. Please bear with me until I can get it solved, by hook or by crook. I am still not too well and am about to go back into BRI for some more tests on Monday. As soon as I feel up to delving into CSS issues and reverting old templates, I will do so. Not up for that just yet as still trying to fathom how it all works.

Oh, re your PM: You may need to dump your cookies cache off your PC in order to see the site as it should present. There is a Word button in the editing window which you should be able to use without having to cut and paste from a Word file. Try that.

If there are any experts out there, your advice would be welcome! Ha ha.

Regards

[Nick Watt]

Mike,

Sorry to hear about the need for a BRI trip - hope all goes well.I've dumped the cookies, so let's see if it works !

[Hits 'Submit'].....

It didn't. Must be something I'm doing - I'll figure it out. Thanks for the help.

Regards,

Nick

[Peter Deck]

I too hope that Mike can get his medical probs sorted out, best wishes.

Nick regarding your deck to sheerplank join. I reckon it depends on how much damage you anticipate there. If you are coming alongside docks or jetties a lot, there will be the likelihood of a fair bit of contact. In that case a small rubrail that is just screwed down over sealer like Sikkens 291 and then painted. This can be easily touched up with paint for small dings or replaced for larger damage. An advantage with this is that there will be an extra finger hold when lifting the kayak.

If you are just beaching the kayak, then there is not much likelihood of damage in this area and good coatings of epoxy to seal off water ingress into the ply end grain, then paint and you should be OK.


Cheers, Peter

[Mike]

Nick

As you can see, I too am now having formatting issues. I have no idea what caused this but I think it is BLOODY annoying so I intend to put a Support Ticket in to vBulletin.

No doubt they will come back in a few days to tell me that it is something very simple. Stay tuned.

Regards

[Mike]

Interesting!

It seems to have gone away again and I was able to edit the formatting in as usual. vBulletin Support have been on the job.

Let's hope it is not necessary for me to edit format in for everybody, though. I do have another life. ;)

With apologies to Nick for digressing to deal with his formatting issue, I return this thread to its former subject.

Regards

[Nick Watt]

I too hope that Mike can get his medical probs sorted out, best wishes.

Nick regarding your deck to sheerplank join. I reckon it depends on how much damage you anticipate there. If you are coming alongside docks or jetties a lot, there will be the likelihood of a fair bit of contact. In that case a small rubrail that is just screwed down over sealer like Sikkens 291 and then painted. This can be easily touched up with paint for small dings or replaced for larger damage. An advantage with this is that there will be an extra finger hold when lifting the kayak.

If you are just beaching the kayak, then there is not much likelihood of damage in this area and good coatings of epoxy to seal off water ingress into the ply end grain, then paint and you should be OK.


Cheers, Peter

Peter - that is more or less what I am coming to think.

Hardwood molding for rubrails - I would use 'Flat D' shape is no longer available in our small country town since Focus DIY went bust. I would have to make my own using a router on some Ash stock that I have - not sure if it worth the time/effort.

Cheers,

Nick

(Also a trial to see if the formatting bug is fixed)

[Mike]

Hardwood molding for rubrails - I would use 'Flat D' shape is no longer available in our small country town since Focus DIY went bust. I would have to make my own using a router on some Ash stock that I have - not sure if it worth the time/effort.No real need to use a 'D' profile strake, Nick. A nice 20 x 30 piece of ash will do the job just as well and look virtually the same, especially from a few feet away.

Hope your planned decking job went well today.

Regards

[Nick Watt]

Thanks Mike - I can do that with Ash easily if I decide to go down the rubrail route.

Decking has gone like a dream and looks really good. Having an extra pair of hands in the shape of No 1 son (14) made all the difference.

Here's a preview:

Oh - no there isn't. For some reason, the new 'Manage Attachments' function won't pick up newer photos on my hard driver. B****r ! Hope its me doing something daft. I'll try again tomorrow.

Nick

[Editor Note: Hi Nick. As you can see below, I was able to upload two images into your post without any problems. The first pic below is a new one and the second is one I uploaded into my own Blog some time ago. The procedure for uploading is different to the old system but it is simple enough. Essentially, you can either insert an already uploaded image by dragging and dropping into the bottom of the loader (under 'Manage Attachments') and then upload inline OR you can upload a new image and it will insert where your cursor is sitting when you click the 'Upload' button after locating it on your PC ('Add Files' > 'Select Files').

I guess this takes a little trial and error but I worked it out within a few moments of looking at the attachment manager. You should be able to do the same, I reckon. I look forward to seeing the pics of today's decking. If you can't get them up yourself, send them to me attached to an email and I'll load them for you wherever you wish.

Regards

Mike]



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